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Please don't do any "Kooky Law" stuff!

Posted by: Torm Howse indianacrc@earthlink.net  

Torm Howse is the National Board Director, United Civil Rights Councils of America

Please don't get involved in any "kooky law" stuff... i.e., the use of UCC concepts within family law, (valid elsewhere, like regular contract law, trade law, and etc., but not in the family law aspect of custody itself), the gold fringe on flag thing, the Strawman thing, the courts and judges are "corporations" thing, any given bar association is a British spinoff thing, etc., etc., etc.

I recently saw this very good summary on the basic reasons *why* to shy away from this stuff, not the least of which is reasonably expecting to be instantly branded a nutcase by any (99.9%) of the general public.

Credit goes to Larry Becraft, who is largely responsible for *debunking* all of these kooky law stuff items:

“Destroyed Arguments” (legal collections explaining the nonsense of these various "kooky law" scams... i.e., the law itself, explaining why these crazy and wild goose chases are worthless, even though they "sound good"...)

Here's the quick overall nice summary of WHY I won't get involved with kooky law stuff, in a nutshell.

In case you don't know who Greg Hession is, go to http://www.massoutrage.com


* Warning - This is a kook alert.*
By Gregory A. Hession J.D. -- hession@crocker.com

I received an email from a Constitutional Law outfit run by a husband and wife named Jack and Margy Flynn, out of New Mexico, called Citizens of the American Constitution. They are planning to come to Massachusetts and do seminars, starting in Holyoke. Its web site is Citizens of the American Constitution.

I have reviewed the web site, and it is full of Kooky-Law terms like "Admiralty Law", "Sui Juris", "Perjury of Oaths", references to using the Uniform Commercial Code in civil matters that are not business related, and making objections about whether one's name is in upper or lower case in the heading on the pleadings, etc.

These things are very dangerous for a number of reasons:

First, they mislead the innocent and earnest person who has been hammered by the system to believe that there is a "silver bullet" method of winning, when it is not true.

Second, using these terms and tactics in court, that are recommended on their web site, results in instantly being branded a "kook" by the court. Often, the case never recovers after that.

Third, it's flat wrong, and dishonest. The Uniform Commercial Code does not apply to family cases, or speeding tickets, and our state courts are NOT using admiralty law (which is strictly federal procedure, dealing with vessels and injuries at sea).

Fourth, those good folks using these techniques often lose big, and often get fined for being frivolous. And I mean BIG. This happened to a client of mine, who now has a $1.2 million dollar judgment against him, only because he did honestly and innocently followed the advice of a kooky-law guru. I came in after it was all done, and couldn't undo the damage. The judgment stuck.

These people recommend making statements like the following to the judge prior to trial, if he doesn't "prove" his jurisdiction: "I would again inform him [the judge] that, by his own actions and responses, he committed _insurrection, sedition and treason_ against the American People, is a traitor to this Nation and its People, and must be removed from the bench for his treason. I will immediately file criminal and civil charges against him, personally, and in his professional capacity, and take action against him in an Article III federal court, which I will demand, by Motion." Telling a judge that he is committing insurrection, sedition and treason is a good way to get thrown in jail, never mind lose your case, when the case may have actually won on its merits. That is just nonsense.

Genuine patriot lawyers like Larry Becraft have debunked this stuff for years, and yet people continue to believe the scam artists who push this junk. See The Dixieland Law Journal, and scroll down to the links on Patriot Scams. The only one these guys missed was complaining about yellow fringes on the flag.

A certain percentage of these cases do win using these techniques because the court just doesn't want the hassle, such as when you ask for jury trials for speeding tickets. Hey, sometimes they just humor the person and let them go. Usually, however, the earnest patriot goes in, thinking he is armed with the truth, and gets his head handed to him.

Chase these guys out of town as fast as possible. They will do untold harm to everyone in this movement.

So, please, good people -- no "kooky law" stuff !!:

1. Regardless of whether there is *any valid* base to *any* of it, at all, it just doesn't matter.

2. America is dumb still, and hasn't yet re-awakened to its own roots of freedom and independence.

3. 98-99% of Americans, old and young alike, will instantly brand you a "kook", and for good reason.

4. NONE of that stuff is even NECESSARY, in the first place, since everything a person would want, for justice and accountability, is ALREADY in the law... even in the "modern" law... so, just get your justice using the available tools under the law as it is now, because there are plenty of ways to do it.

5. The "law" has not been the problem. Generally, the problem is that you are just one person, and they (the system) are not. What they can get away with, you cannot, because you are just person. Lesson: You need to become more than one person. Join with others. Work together. Just like that system does... Only, instead of dishonesty and corruption used by them to achieve fraud against you, use the power and truth of real law and facts -- backed up by bigger numbers of you -- to achieve accountability and judgment upon such lawbreakers.

Team up with others, and then use the law - the real law... Then you win.



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