Shocking Our Consciences

-- By: Dorothy Mataras --

Re: In Response to Attacks on the Judiciary in the Terri Schiavo Case

Dear Mr. Grey:

The attacks on the judiciary should not be vicious nor should there be any physical threats, other than that, a healthy debate on the judiciary would be an immense relief to millions in this country -- the millions who have consistently had their rights judicially violated and to add insult to injury, deliberately silenced by judicially mandated rules.

In your message, you, as an attorney, have falsely stated: The federal and state judges who have been assigned this case have been charged with weighing the “[facts of the case] and the remedies set forth in the law.” The truth is that only one probate court judge weighed the facts. In weighing the facts, he tilted the scales to one side as low as it could go. He then applied the law to fit the facts he alone chose to believe discounting all opposing ‘facts’ for whatever his reasons.

Many people in this country did not and do not understand that the ‘two trials’ Terri was given were by one judge – George Greer. Had a jury been allowed, we think the ‘finding of facts’ would have been much different provided he let the Schindler’s witnesses’ be heard.

When a judge takes on the guardianship of the ward in addition to being the ultimate ruler, we the people do not consider him a ‘dedicated’ jurist; we see him as an egotist. Let’s not forget that Judge Greer never even went to meet Terri in one of his duel roles -- ‘guardian.’

When a judge becomes conflicted and refuses to recuse himself, we the people do not consider him a ‘dedicated’ jurist; we see him as arrogant and god-like.

No matter how much you may not like some of the terminology of ‘we the people’ we believe that the dehydration of Terri Schindler Schiavo is ‘judicial homicide.’ Judges who have no respect for life and rule in favor of death are also termed ‘hanging judges.’ This is not the first time this judge has ruled in favor of death.

We the people have not seen one iota of ‘dispensing even-handed justice’ when there are more conflicts in this case than can be itemized in a short reply. The actions taken by Governor Bush and subsequently by the United States Congress and our President were expressions of ‘we the people.’ Millions have been demanding relief from legislators and executives related to the Florida courts’ shocking decisions. At long last, we were heard but to no avail. With the exception of one Federal Judge, the rest refused to grant a full de nova hearing. Judge Greer even had the audacity to defy a Congressional subpoena.

There are three branches of government and we are supposed to be guaranteed ‘checks and balances’ unfortunately, the judicial branch seems to believe it is so independent that they can do whatever they choose whenever they choose without consequence or accountability.

Sir, we the people have had our consciences shocked in a major way. It is long passed the time that we not only judge our judges, but also demand accountability. Terri Schindler-Schiavo hopefully is the wake-up call for the benefit of our country as a whole.

Dorothy Mataras is the Director of Victims-of-Law, Inc.. & Board Member of A Matter of Justice Coalition

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Judicial Respect

By: Mary Connors

Mr. Grey,

I would request that you, sir; be accountable to the public statements you made regarding the honor and respect you say is due the judiciary.  That is the most significant act you can do to restore, if possible, the honor and respect of the judiciary.  In other words: "put your money where your mouth is," "walk your talk."

You should be in a position as the president of the ABA to help make significant changes that begin to restore some of the "accountability of practicing attorneys owe to their clients."  Don't bother to make superficial changes that only create the "appearance of accountability".  You need the feedback of citizens who have: "under the color of law", without due process; lost everything or almost everything in litigation and have learned how that happened to them.  There is no shortage of such citizens. 

 Judges deserve what they earn, just like anyone else.  If a judge earns respect, he/she has respected the Constitutional provisions in court procedures, such as granting due process, upholding the "rule of law", honoring the judicial cannons, etc.  Judges are not infallible; they are just human beings.   Accountability, the Constitution, the "rule of law" is nothing more than a nostalgic memory in too many courtrooms across this country.   Until the judiciary sincerely and seriously addresses the intolerable lack of accountability, respect for the judiciary is quickly becoming a nostalgic memory.

I had no experience in legal matters and found myself in civil court.  I had no pre-judgment of attorneys.  I fully expected the court to have some honor.  It did not; I was shocked and extremely disillusioned.  I've spent over 2 yrs. researching the cause and learned; my experiences are epidemic. 

 I had 3 attorneys, 2 in succession.  The last one, I had to dismiss in the court proceeding.  He outright lied to me several times to the detriment to my mother and me.  He then billed me for more money that I supposedly owed.  After several months of billing, I responded in writing; listing his faults in my legal representation.  I requested he return a portion of the money I had already paid him.  I never heard another word from him and no money was returned to me. 

The results of his misdeeds were/are a parallel to the Terri Schlindler’s case.   The suppression of evidence of felony crimes, the denial of law enforcement remedy, involuntary instutionalization, gross violations of human rights, Constitutional rights, denial of due process, obstruction of justice, by the judge, attorneys and other local profiteers co-operating at the ruthless expense of innocent private citizens.

The percentage of Americans who have experienced these gross violations is reaching a critical mass and should be sufficient to call the judicial charade of honor and respect to an end.  It is only a matter of time before the majority of citizens realize the same. 

I was forced into becoming a "pro se" litigant due to the deeds of both attorneys and did notably better myself than if I could afford an attorney.  Of course, I had a different judge; one who did grant me due process, a step up from my first experience. In the first court encounter, I relied on my attorney because I knew absolutely nothing about court and the law; I actually trusted that he would represent me as the ABA professional code defines.  In my effort to remedy that heinous court slaughter, I became somewhat educated in the law and learned the meaning of”due process".     

Your carte blanche approval of the judiciary process in Terri Schlindler-Schiavo's case is typical of the ABA's inability to require any accountability or create a process that successfully mandates accountability in the most grotesque cases inundated with human rights violations, Constitutional violations, Federal and State law violations.  Did you personally examine the court documents of Terri Schlindler's case?  (You cannot examine all the evidence in her behalf that Greer would not allow; Terri had a charade of 'due process'; same as none)  Had you examined her court documents and then imagined, for a moment, that she was your family member (sister, niece); as an attorney, you most likely would have been infuriated by Greer’s actions and probably her lack of legal representation would not have been endearing to you.

Respectfully,

Mary Connors 

Strictly on the Law: "Judges Deserve our Respect"?

-- By: Lori Duboys

Dear Mr. Grey,

I personally, have never come across an "even-handed" judge in my own experience in the "meat grinder":  through six levels of state-federal courts, engaging in cover-up of completely unlawful guardianship/probate proceedings, while misstating facts, ignoring cited controlling authority,  mis-applying law, and even "losing" five years of subpoenaed records (in order to avoid specifically requested review of forged, unissued, unfiled process).

I was formerly a paralegal and court stenographer,  with a good understanding of the law; I do not consider myself a ‘disgruntled litigant’ or a paranoid pro-se. There’s nothing like personally experiencing the outrageous conduct to force one to open their eyes.

"Gimme a break!"  If I find an honest judge, I will give him/her my respect.

Assuming the violations listed in an online petition to impeach Judge Greer are true, if the system were honest, he would have been removed/impeached.  http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

Lori Duboys, http://www.victimsofguardians.net/

They are simply dedicated public servants

-- By: Ed Heimlich

Oh how I wish that were true. But it is not. Why not? Because there is no Accountability for the Bench & Bar Gang - the "Legal Fraternity".

They have, over time, perverted our Laws to impose a "species of Law foreign to this jurisdiction". The very same Law, and Practice of Law, that forced the Founders of Law in this Land, both for Texas, and for the larger Land known as the United States of America, to take up arms. [Read the Declarations of Independence, 7-4-1776, and 3-2-1836]

Robert Grey has, obviously, never tried to hold a 'Public Servant', entrusted with the position of Public Trust known as Judge, accountable for clear, unequivocal, violations of even the plain language of the highest Law in our Land, our Constitution, and/or intentional disregard for facts certified as truth but hidden by Judges acting in collusion with Government Attorneys.

The ABA is responsible for the lack of respect for our Judiciary. I'm of the personal opinion the Terri Schiavo case is not the most appropriate for attacking our Judiciary. But I am happy to see that the "lack of respect" is becoming widespread. Awareness of how our entire Judicial Branch of government has been corrupted by the Legal Fraternity, 'the Bar', is growing rapidly. The recent shootings, and the Terri Schiavo case, is just the beginning of what will be a growing attack on the lack of honor among members of the Bench & Bar Gang.

"Honor" requires more than "trust". They must be held "Accountable". Who was it that said; "Trust but Verify"?

Ed Heimlich -- http://www.informed.org

Click below link for Gary Zerman's Response -- on Page 2

Reply to ABA President-Mr. Robert J.Grey, Jr.’s Statement
Re Attacks on the Judiciary. By: Gary Zerman

Page 3 Response to "Judges Deserve Our Respect, Not Our Scorn"

In Response to: "Judges Deserve Our Respect, Not Our Scorn" -- By: Charles E. Lincoln

Charles E. Lincoln's Additional Response to Mr. Grey

Additional Response to the ABA Statement

with references to Mr. Zerman's Response -- -- By: Lori Duboys